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Antibiotic Syndrome, Intestinal Candida, Oral Candida, Thrush, Fungus… whatever you want to call it… it sucks and I hate it.

What I am about to share with you will undoubtedly be debated, tried, and perhaps even ignored. Just know that I share this today because it helped me. Years of trial and error and I found something that worked for me. I’m not selling you anything… I’m simply trying to help. BTW, I’m a blunt individual… so some of this will be very raw. Also... what you're going to read here... you WILL NOT hear from a doctor... at least not yet. So you will have to make your own decisions and be an adult about it and not blame anyone but yourself for your decisions. Do your research and make sure something is right for you. Don't blame someone else because you made a decision and it didn't work out because you didn't look into it.

Over 11 years ago, I had an appendicitis/appendectomy. It was horrible. The pain was unbelievable. Well, the surgery didn’t go all that great and they ended up feeding me antibiotics through the veins, and through my mouth. It was crazy how much they were giving me. The sad part was that I was more or less a stupid kid at that time and couldn’t tell you anything about medicine to save your life.

No one told me that what I was eating and drinking would hurt me even more. Pizza, pop, McDonalds, and beer. Sure, I saw the sticker that said “Do not consume alcohol with this medicine”. Honestly, I thought it would just make me nauseous or something and no one really explained that “YOUR LIFE WILL SUCK IF YOU DO THIS”. So, being the dumb kid that I was, I drank, I was having sex… and the reason that is important is because of the bacterial side of the equation. Let’s break it down (sorry for being brash)

Stupid amount of antibiotics.
Alcohol – Super food for bad bacteria and fungus
Horrible Diet – Also super food for bad bacteria and fungus - perhaps immune compromising.
Oral Sex – introduction of other bacteria that shouldn’t be around.

Now… who knows… she could have had a yeast problem… I couldn’t tell you because I was drunk. Oops. Maybe it wasn't even her. What I do know is within days of that celebration, I woke up and I was in a bad way. I knew something was REALLY wrong and I had all the classic symptoms of Candida to back it up. But… I didn’t have any kind of “disease” according to the doctors.

My bowels had locked, lots of gas, oral thrush, pain swallowing, taste was gone, etc etc.

Long story short, I went to the doctors, and they didn’t have a clue. Referral after referral after referral and still nothing. Test after test after test and all negative. Even took a trip to the CDC and they couldn’t do anything for me.

This was the beginning of a journey that took well over 3 years before I found what I thought had worked. That’s right, after about three years, suddenly the majority of my symptoms had disappeared. Didn’t take anything different… in fact… I just stopped taking stuff all together… I was tired of pouring money into my body and getting nothing in return. I just quit… I thought that’s what worked. It didn’t. Within a couple years I developed a reoccurring case of sinus infection over and over and over again. So guess what I eventually did after about 4 years of that? I went to the doctor. Guess what he gave me? That’s right… antibiotics. And like a moron, I took them. Three rounds.

So guess what happened next? That’s right, my bowels locked , lots of gas, oral thrush, pain swallowing, taste was gone, etc etc. Only this time… I had blurred vision, constant fatigue, I was highly irritable, plus a ton more symptoms that most of us already know about. Then my locked bowels turned into chronic loose bowels. Was told I had IBS.

So once again… I was back at it… trying to find a cure because all the expensive medicine the doctors were shoving down my throat weren’t working. But then it occurred to me… I never really found a cure to begin with. I wasn’t healed at all. So I decided to start all over.

Needless to say, I hit more books than you can imagine… I searched the net far and wide for different products that fit the information I was finding. So now… over 11 years later… I can tell you now that I believe I have found the cure… at least for myself. Maybe… just maybe it can work for you.

I won’t go into the scientific details of why these things are working, but I will give a brief reason so you can understand that I’m not blowing smoke. Also… a little plug here for college… because college gave me the ability to effectively research. My background is in security and investigations… so I took the tools I learned and applied them to this. So… thanks to the education.

First let me say that docs had made my try Nystatin, Fluconazole, Sporanox, etc. None of them worked. I had ingested more natural supplements than I care to cover here today… none of which really did the trick. Sure… some helped… and I will tell you which ones helped and why. But the moral of the story is that I spent THOUSANDS on crap that literally just went in and out and did nothing for me.

So here we go.

My bowels were not in a good way… first they locked… then I couldn’t get a firm stool for the life of me. ALL LIFE BEGINS IN THE INTESTINES. I had to get those right.

I started making Peanut Butter Kefir. Kefir because that is an amazing probiotic and Peanut butter because it’s sticky and forces the bowels to form. This part I’m sure many will argue “You’re not supposed to have that”… well I took it anyway. I read that foods that contain soluble, or digestible, fiber slow the emptying of the bowels, including rice, potatoes, applesauce, smooth peanut butter, yogurt, and oatmeal. Eat foods that make the stool bulkier, slow down the traffic down there. The longer the probiotic can stay in the intestine... the more chance it has to colonize. That’s just logic.

I used organic peanut butter with no added sugar. I liked it so it was fine. That was step one. Get the bowels to slow down and catch the probiotic... and medicine for that matter. BTW, if you are going to cry about the Peanut butter… try something else. Try the oatmeal, try the yogurt. Yogurt is good for you anyway and has probiotic… but eat lots of it.

Anyway… it took about three weeks to slow my stool situation down… I also learned that you drink your kefir in the morning and try not to drink too much before bed. You’ll wake up with dry mouth which will complicate the oral thrush.

Second, address the fungal issues that are trying to eat me. But you have to know what you’re up against before you can kill it. So what are fungi and what makes them so special?

A fungus is a member of a large group of eukaryotic organisms that includes microorganisms such as yeasts and molds. These organisms are classified as a kingdom, Fungi, which is separate from plants, animals, and bacteria. One major difference is that fungal cells have cell walls that contain chitin, unlike the cell walls of plants, which contain cellulose.

So chitin is the difference? Different from all other life pretty much. But what is Chitin? It is the main component of the cell walls of fungi, the exoskeletons of arthropods such as crustaceans (e.g. crabs, lobsters and shrimps) and insects, the radulas of mollusks and the beaks of cephalopods, including squid and octopuses. In other words… REALLY REALLY HARD STUFF.

Lol… so that explains why they are so hard to kill… and they stay around for what seems to be forever. Think about it… killing fleas is tough work… and you’re telling me that I have microorganism inside of me that have the same kind of wall? Think about it this way… if you sprinkled some of these so called fungus supplements on a flea… do you think it would kill it?

So, we need to penetrate the wall, and keep these things from multiplying while replacing them as soon as possible with beneficial bacteria strong enough to fend them off. THAT is a tall order… or so I thought.

1.    To breach the walls… or inhibit the production of chitin you need Lufenuron.
2.    To interfere with the fungal cell membrane, increasing permeability, and force it to leak nutrients, essentially killing them... you need Miconazole.
3.    To replace the good bacteria, you need lots and lots of probiotic.

The problem… Lufenuron is for animals, Miconazole is for Jock itch and vaginal yeast infections. Probiotic… expensive.

Ok… in all fairness… all of that is true IF and ONLY IF you live in the United States and if you keep relying on companies to tell you what you need to do.

And before I go on… please understand that MANY “medical advances have come from Vets who looked for answers but don’t have their hands tied by the FDA or AMA”. Nice little quote there from my doctor… take it for what it’s worth.

Lufenuron, a benzoylurea pesticide, inhibits the production of chitin. Lufenuron is the active ingredient in the veterinary flea control medication, Program, and the veterinary coformulation flea control, heartworm prevention, and anthelmintic medicine, Sentinel Flavor Tabs. A couple things here… 1) they use it on animals… and 2) It has been used in PRIMATES with great success against fungal infections. So what are the chances that it would work for you… the human… the animal?

And… just FYI… there are places online that sell 100% pure Lufenuron with instructions on how to take it. If it has more than one chemical… don’t take it. You just want Lufenuron.

I took it and it’s safe. I’m still here and better off then before. Of course... I may just be a primate... who knows?

Miconazole – like Monistat… it does alter cell membranes and inhibits fungal enzymes but they don’t sell Miconazole here in the states for oral consumption. You need oral consumption because you have some intestines you need to get to and many of you have this oral thrush situation you need to deal with.

Well, I guess they do sell it now… but this is a VERY recent development and it’s STUPID expensive… it’s called Oravig. The FDA just approved it a couple months ago and I have yet to find a doctor or pharmacist who sells it. If you can find it and afford it... awesome! I"m sure it will work too.

So what are you going to do? My advice is to look overseas. You can buy something called Daktarin which is made for oral consumption. TIP: buy several tubes (like 5) because it runs out pretty quick. I liked the stuff… it has a pleasant taste and I saw improvement in days. I also used a separate tooth brush to rub it into my tongue and gums. Then you swallow it… and it attaches to the intestinal wall… which only helps in my opinion.

Probiotic… this one is easy… start making homemade Kefir and drink it daily and often. It’s cheap to make and is so much better than probiotics in a bottle. Get REAL Kefir grains though. Take the time and order some online. Look at youtube for tips on how to make it. Make this a daily habit for the rest of your life… you’ll thank me. Avoid the store bought Kefir and “Kefir Starter”… what a joke. Doesn’t work or help in my opinion… and it’s expensive. Yet someone else making TONS off of your pain. You can buy GREAT Kefir grains online for like $20 or less and they’ll last you forever. Other than that, you need regular pasteurized milk. Too easy.

So take Kefir, Lufenuron, and Miconazole (Oravig or Daktarin) all at the same time.

Supplements that I know helped… Oregano Oil, Garlic, Orithrush D, and Coconut Oil.

Also… a good multivitamin, Cod Liver Oil, and LOTS of Vitamin C as well.

Avoid sugar, alcohol, bread, anything bleached, stuff like that. I would go over the full list but you probably already know that list… and if you don’t… look up Candida Diet… it does help… a lot. Be strict on it all and you’ll be over this in no time.

Remember… the body doesn’t heal over night… you can only mask the symptoms over night. Real healing takes time... and if I can do this… you can do this. I’m a very impatient OCD SOB.

So how am I today? Well, thankfully I wised up and stopped listening to stupid claims about effectiveness from the companies who make these stupid products. I did REAL research and came up with REAL solutions.

Now, I was dealing with over 11 years of sickness. So it wasn’t instant relief by any stretch. However, it did only take a few weeks before I was in decent shape. And it only took a few extra weeks before I was what I considered to be healed.

Today… I still eat a healthy diet, I still drink my Kefir daily… but I’m not hounded by the symptoms of pain, confusion, and embarrassment. I’m thinner, stronger, and healthier. I feel great! Of course… you’d feel pretty good too if you just came off of 11 years of suffering. Angry of course that the solution was elementary and cheap.

Oh ya... I sleep very sound now too.

I hope this helps you. I really do. Do your own research though… make sure it’s right for you. Remember… I’m not a doctor, I’m just another guy in the world just trying to help out fellow suffers. Not that doctors have all the answers anyway… or you wouldn’t be here and they wouldn’t be in “Practice”.

Good luck and good health.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2011 08:19 pm
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That's very interesting, do you know anyone else who has tried it?

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I am very interested in trying this.  I have had bad breath and can get no relief from Doctors so far.  I have been to four Drs and two dentists.  Honestly they don't seem to take me seriously.  It's so bad, it affects my life.  How can I get medicine from other countries?  I need help and I'm desperate.  I have tried ThreeLac, I cannot put that stuff on my tongue or drink it.  It makes me gag and vomit.  I have several unopened boxes I'd like to get rid of.  I hate throwing them in the trash after they cost so much.

 

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Linda, why don't you try Candida Yeast Support. It's in capsule form......................?

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Can you give me the link?  Much appreciation.

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I just e-mail Mike when I want to order, not sure of the website............?

Good luck and keep us posted as to your progress! I'm on week 3 of 4 a day, definitely had die-off symptoms the first little while. I'm doing very lo carbs, next to no sugar and no alcohol just to help it along. Also doing the prebiotic Inulin 2-3 times a day ( easy to take, tastes sweet )

I'm hopeful, want to lose about 20lbs which has been impossible due to the Candida. I'm on my way..................!! Not quitting til I succeed!

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Hello, I really want to find a place to buy pure Lufenuron, where did you buy yours? Owndoc.com does not sell it anymore. Any leads or information I will really appreciate! Your post was fantastic! Thanks, Carol

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Hi Soaringe, I've ordered pure Lufenuron from the site you mentioned, they are selling it again!!! It is shipped from Europe, only took a week to get it here in Canada. Started taking it yesterday, hopefully this will help

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Hey! This story is the most accurate and helpful I've ever come across. I've been fighting Candida for about 10 years but have never really taken it as seriously as it deserves. I just had a few questions.

Those two medications Oravig and Lufenuron seem to be used as pesticides. Do you think it's dangerous to take them both at the same time? Also I used to be a big beer drinker. Gaaad I miss beer. Do you drink alcohol these days? If so what types?

How many rounds of Lufenuron did you have to take? At own.com
they say a three day ingestion, 2 week release period is a round I guess.

Thanks!

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Oh srry one more question. What about coffee?

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It's really av ery interesting, thanks for sharing your experience.

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Has anybody else tried this?

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Lufenuron is still being sold or being sold again. The person who sells this says very disparaging things about ThreeLac and other similar things saying there is no basis in fact that these things do anything for Candida. They calls it a fraud, calling them "powdered yogurt" They claims that if you purchase Lufenuron and it does not help you that you DON'T HAVE a candida problem and you should not waste your money on trying to cure an issue you don't have. I always shy away form absolutes but admit its intriguing. What I don't warm up to, is dismissing people as frauds when you really don't know them or what their motives are. The science behind Lufernuron does look to be sound so I wold not dismiss it out of hand either ... but its hard to know for sure.

Once again this project might be one of the best kept secrets out there … but what bothers me is talking in absolutes like if take "something or the other" and that "something or the other" does not make your symptoms go away, then candida is NOT your problem. I noticed the person who sells Lufernuron has a forum page for that, but its been locked for any further posts, the reason given that there is not enough time to moderate the forum. For me right away thats a problem since I prefer to have an open conversation with other users of the product about their experience. Candiday does not seem to have a problem doing the job here and if he felt it was necessary Id bet he could fine a very smart person to help him out. Sell your product but do you have to so adamantly vilify the other guy to do it?

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The fact is that there are pages and pages of testimonies on how well products like ThreeLac work. To dismiss the hundred of success stores you would have to accept that these people are frauds or making up their personal experiences.

The challenge here is that Candida can masquerade as many things and some of them very serious things. Who among us if we had a debilitating condition would not want it to be something we could cure ourselves as many have described here. I believe that human beings out of balance get sick, I also believe that the body can heal itself given the right circumstance and thats what this forum is about.

I say if its not toxic give it a try and see if it helps. This stuff is not simple.

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I've got a better idea....get yourself some diatomaceous earth, it works the same way without having to do anything different other than just eating right. Cut out sugars for the most part, it's better for you. Avoid breads, potatoes and anything high in bad carbs. Eat your fruits, veggies and lean meats, take one tablespoon of Diatomaceous earth in a glass of water daily and watch your symptoms improve. Be patient, it could take a month or two. D.E. is almost as hard as diamonds and kills fungus, parasites, and detoxes your system all at the same time. It's silica basically which is VERY good for your blood, bones, muscles, skin...you name it. It worked for me!

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snapbeans65 wrote:
I've got a better idea....get yourself some diatomaceous earth, it works the same way without having to do anything different other than just eating right. Cut out sugars for the most part, it's better for you. Avoid breads, potatoes and anything high in bad carbs. Eat your fruits, veggies and lean meats, take one tablespoon of Diatomaceous earth in a glass of water daily and watch your symptoms improve. Be patient, it could take a month or two. D.E. is almost as hard as diamonds and kills fungus, parasites, and detoxes your system all at the same time. It's silica basically which is VERY good for your blood, bones, muscles, skin...you name it. It worked for me!

Most importantly, make sure it's quality food grade D.E. !!! I get mine at our local health food store for a little over a buck a pound. So not only does it work, it's cheap! It will only cost you about $10 to take it all year. Beat that!

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Food grade DE does not cause candida die offs or scratch your intestinal tract. It is the most effective intestinal parasite cleanse you can buy. Gut flora will not be affected by DE at all, good or bad. The only way it may help with candida is to free up your immune system from the burden of parasites. If anyone has good research, explanations or evidence I would love to see it.

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All I know is I'm still continuing to show improvement with all my symptoms after over a month of using D.E. It's not just a parasite cleanse, it gets rid of toxins as well. I used to have a tongue coated with white gunk every morning but now it's nearly clean. Nothing else has come even close to doing that so far. I eat a balanced diet, have kept my weight off and no longer worry about eating whole grain breads or fruit. It's worth a shot for anyone who is sick of doing extreme measures only to have NO results or very little ones. The more I stuck to the strict diet, over several months, not weeks...the worse my symptoms got. D.E. is easy and cheap. VERY cheap. I feel awesome!

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Hello, I have been suffering candida since I had a brain surgery when I was 15 years, I am now 28 and my lige has been destroyed ever since! I've tried everything! all the fungus treatments yet natural and not natural available, my boyfriend hates me already! haha you can imagine the rest! I am desperatly looking to buy this product but it seems like that page is closed... Do you know where can I buy it at low costs online?? thank you!

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Hello,  I am looking for a source of pure Lufenuron, and am having a terrible time.  I live in Mexico and have a friend willing to bring it down for me if I can get it shipped in time, (before June 7).  It seems that Sarah Vaughter's site is shut down, and I can't find another source.  Can you help me?  Where did you get your Lufenuron?
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Those who said they could not get Lufenuron recently, try again because I just ordered some from her website the other day. It ships from Holland so I am expecting it to take a while but I was able to get it on Sara Vaughtner's website. I just googled: lufenuron order. and her website came up. don't know if i am allowed to post website links on this forum. But I have been going through some ups and downs and nothing seems to improve my symptoms. I am hoping the Lufenuron will work.

I have been on and off the candida diet, currently back on more restricted than ever, taking all the Global Health Trax Supplements (three lac, o2, digestive enzymes, Oregano Oil, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Ocotea oil, Garlic, Kombucha, ginger, pau d' arco, Baking Soda/Molasses(Dr.Simoncini's remedy), ACV, Reishi,vit c, Multivitamins, wheatgrass juice, coconutoil, you name it. I am just over it all. Because no matter how disciplined I am, I still have the symptoms! I have lost about 10 pounds which is great but I still having terrible itching symptoms and rash. Plus white tounge with the tell-tale candida spots.

I wanted to reach out and ask if anyone on this forum actually used Lufenuron and what they thought of it. I am a bit apprehensive as it is made in China but they do have lab cert. also just the fact that I haven't been in contact with anyone who has actually taken it. I have Diatomaceous earth ready to go when the lufenuron arrives to help with die-off. That has been painful when I take the Baking soda for a few days in a row. Any personal experiential conversation would be helpful. Plus just some emotional support is great. So hopefully those of you who could not get the lufenuron will be able to now.

Thanks for all the help so far.
Tiffany

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